Hello All, I am looking to buy a new printer and can’t seem to decide between the SV06+ Ace and the SV07+. While the SV08 is nice, I think it’s a little out of my price range for what I’m looking for. Would one of those two be considered “better” then the other?
I am leaning towards the 7+ due to the all metal gear, all metal hot end and having the Meanwell PSU, but I could also be overlooking something and would like some opinions.
I don’t mind tinkering and upgrading as needed, but would also like to avoid buying new hardware right from the start to make upgrades.
Hard to say, probably there isn’t a single person who has both printers. I have a SV07 Plus and I am very happy with it. But I have never used a SV06+ Ace, so I can’t say anything about it.
Based on the forums here there are good and bad experiences for both printers.
The 7 is much simpler. Easier to maintain and upgrade. The Klipad has some OS issues but can be overcome. The stationary part cooling fan on the gantry is LOUD. The 7 uses old school V rollers on all 3 axis (which I personally think work MUCH better than the reputation they have)
The Ace has 2 MCU’s and is (virtually) locked into Sovol’s OTA upgrades. Not as easy to upgrade/repair. The toolhead includes a force sensor that allows a “touch to zero” routine eliminating the paper test to set Z offset. The ace has some unique tech in the “rails” claiming better precision.
Both machines use the same extruder. Hot ends, fans and other bits are different but the core is the same.
If you like to tinker get the 7. If you want “set it and forget it” get the Ace
Thank you both for the input. I like the thought of the “touch to zero”, but have never had issues in the past with the paper method. Not too crazy about being locked in to OTA updates. I’d rather update on the fly as needed.
As far as the Kilpperized SV06, not opposed, but kind of also want to get something that’s current without modifications. Again I don’t mind tinkering and upgrading, but think I’ve spent more time on my previous printer upgrading rather then actually printing.
I have an SV06+ Ace. It seems like a good printer once you’re used to it. the PSU fan is super loud and the Mean Well replacements I looked into were $100. seems steep to pay 1/3 of the printer’s purchase price for a single part. So my printer lives in the garage where it can be as noisy as it wants.
Oops. What did I do to deserve this?
Yes. I was able to test both SV06 (Plus) ACEs. I was also able to test the SV05, and I also have the SV01 Pro and the SV02 here, but unfortunately I don’t have all of Sovol’s printers. That’s why I’m comparing the SV06 ACE with an Ender-3 V3 KE. They have a comparable print range. Sovol itself compares it with a Prusa MK4. That gives me a bit of a bad feeling. The information in all manufacturers’ advertisements is hard to read. A lot of it isn’t written there. The print speed for good print results is the recommended print speed. But these are very close together for current printers. At 250 to 300 mm/s, they all print quite well. The open Klipper on the SV06 ACE stands out. The small issues with the firmware are very quickly resolved. The printer profiles in the Orca are good. Print bed leveling works without any intervention. Set up the printer and start printing. That’s what I like about this printer! I was satisfied with the power supply on the SV06 ACE. The fan on the Plus is very present. However, the component fan on both printers drowns out everything. They aren’t quiet. At the moment, there’s nothing I’d modify on either printer. I only have one criticism: There’s too little choice of replacement nozzles for the ACE printers.
I see the SV08 or the Zero as the better printers for hobby tuning. My favorite printer is a modified Ender 5 Pro. It’s the predecessor to the SV05. I upgraded it with stiffeners and a direct extruder, which the Sovol already has. At 250 mm/s, it prints at a speed comparable to current printers, but thanks to the rigid frame, it doesn’t require input shaping. I simply can’t detect any resonance. Were those enough arguments? Otherwise, I’d have to refer to our blog to avoid copying the entire posts here.
Thank you for your input. While I like the thought of the SV08, it’s a little more then I was thinking of spending at the moment, that’s why I was looking at the SV06 Plus Ace or SV07 Plus.
I wasn’t going to add my opinion to this thread, but decided since I’ve been here a few years I would.
First off, I never bought the SV07..I think it never should have been made. It was a sideways move from the SV06. The ACE should have been the successor to the SV06.
So now that my truth has been posted
I would suggest that you read through both of the SV07 forums.
Asking the question which is better when you have a 2 year SV07 & a few months with the ACE.
@Oliver is the only user I know that owns the ACE Plus & posts regularly on this forum.
The ACE Plus is still new, but as far as posts go…it had the same minor issues the ACE had.
With that said, there are a lot of posts of the SV07. Which are mostly leveling, setting the z-offset, firmware issues.
Since I don’t own a SV07, I didn’t know how complicated the leveling process was until a few months ago.
So, like I said above…get all the info you can on the SV07…read the forums, watch YouTube videos. You have 2 years of info out there.
I will also say, that I do own an ACE (not plus). It has 1 issue for me, I’ve been working with Sovol trying to figure it out..but it might just be one of those things.
Best of luck with your decision & we’ll be here if you need us.
I know asking which is better is subjective to one’s opinion, but that’s also why I came here, to get the opinion of others. Thank you for giving yours.
Before coming here to ask, I did some research and weighed the pros and cons, but was still a little on the fence as there seems to be good and bad from both, but that’s also to be expected. I thought I would get some feedback from the community before making a purchase as I am new to the Sovol product. Either way, I value the input from everyone that’s already been given and hope to contribute back in the future Thank you again.
I have to get back into this
In no particular order:
The X gantry on the ace isn’t really linear rails
The V grove rollers on 1000 printers are better than 1000 internet experts give them credit for
Best printers Sovol ever made was the SV06 and SV6+ (Prusa copies)
SV07 and Klipad get no love from Sovol. They’re running 3 year old version of Armbian.
The “nozzle touch” Z offset tech of the Ace is awesome but Sovol’s implementation is barbaric
ANY kilpper printer with a screen other than klipper screen is a waste of a touchscreen panel
The proprietary nozzle situation is out of hand. Brass nozzles with hardened tips are a necessity
Look at the process to reimage your ace if you crash the OS
Brass nozzle kits for the Ace are currently unavailable in the US. Don’t break your heater!
Best choice today is the SV06. If you absolutely cannot live with 220x220 save up and buy the SV06+
It’s pretty clear to me whether it’s the SV07+ or the SV06+ACE. The SV07 is an SV06 with a Klipper extension, while the SV06 ACE is specifically designed for Klipper. The guides have also been reinforced, which reduces vibrations, and the ACE is fully equipped. In addition to the camera, it also has resonance sensors, which are often not included in other models. At least not in this price segment. The aforementioned bed leveling system works without any additional intervention.
But if I can look back to the time before the SV06, I found the SV01 very interesting with its size between the Ender 3 and CR-10. There, it found its niche and represented a better alternative to Creality’s models. Why Sovol chose the size of the Ender 3 models with the SV06, SV06+, and SV07(+) is something I don’t understand.
Correct. It’s all the more incomprehensible when the dimensions suddenly match. The Ender-3 V3 (Plus) and SV06 (Plus) ACE have the same build volume. Wouldn’t it make more sense to deviate from that?
The SV07 uses the Klipad. Klipad OS is a time bomb. If you update the OS with kiauh or Mainsail you’ve likely bricked it. Fixable but not supported by Sovol.
Both the ace machines (and I think the Zero) use proprietary nozzles with extremely limited selection. Also the heatblock/heater/heat break are only serviced as a assembly at a unreasonable cost AND cannot currently be ordered in the US for any price.