No longer sticking to bed

I’m not sure where to go with this. I left my printer off for a few months, and when coming back I tried to print some PETG, layer did lay down ok, but eventually filament started coming up. I decided to test with ABS, and I saw the same results. I also read ABS is not going to work well on this printer so I figure I would go back ot PETG, now nothing sticks to the plate.

I figure at this point its best to start over, so I start a new project in sovols cura. I had to add a support, and the temp is like 210 for all fitments so I changed that to 235. I did a test print and it tried to print but was very slow. and hopped after each time it layed a line. But didnt seem to stick well but it was laying on the bed a bit. I then added a raft because my first layer is not very thick and when I print now, this hop is gone and its back to full speed ( really confused how that could be) It also it not laying filament down again, maybe the speed is doing this?

I always have used a bit of glue and I always check my bed level.

Can anyone share a default petg profile I can test with? I may also have to recalcitrant my printer. It just seem so strange that it goes form layer issue to no sticking to the bed.

Always, whenever you have an adhesion issue…clean the bed first before you start messing with other things.

ok cleaned the bed and bad to PLA as a base line. I get this.

This is under extrusion? Water in nozzle?

What does the “start line” look like? You know, the one that the printer prints at an edge of the print bed before starting your print.

I did a m501/m500 to restore from my back up that I know was good.
I did extrude 10mm and it gave me 25 but the above does not look like over extrusion.

looks the same, its not smooth.
also I wanted to be sure its not my nozzle so I tried all 3 I ad on hand, all 3 do the same thing. Also another spool of PLA with same results.

Because you used glue, like the previous owner of mine, you are going to have to use a scrubby and dawn on the bed until the water on it runs totally clear. Then clean with alcohol. We no longer use glue. We adjust the bed temp to where it sticks properly, in our case we use 65 degrees bed temp on PLA. Ambient environment temp plays a part in the needed bed temp.

will try it, I bought a new pei plate for this reason. I have always used glue and it has always worked for me but its messy. It woudl be nice not to have to.

Also, make sure that your first layer calibration is right.

Could you kindly explain calibration in this case?

If this is what the 1st layer looks like, then I’d say your Z-Offset is too high.

So about that, had some questions.

  1. do z offset calibration on printer when hot, or not. There is a huge difference. I normally do this at 200 c. I use the paper trick and wait for it to just start grabbing it.

  2. If I adjust my Z using the printer, to a very large number way off the bed, I noticed when it print its not that high. A ways back I wanted to off set by 4 mm to add glad on top, but I learned the offset is a gimmick, it never really worked. EAch time I come back to the offset calibration it does remember the position but never during print. It seem to auto find the plate during print and ignore offset.

  3. Changing the offset does help, regardless of my testes, I have see adjusting the offset fix printing. So I’m really confusing on this with Sovol’s

Also should I update firmware, I never did this since I got it ( release day ).

Read:

Steps 1,2,3 are what I do. but two thing

As I mentioned above, it does seem to adjust z but it also has been proven it does not work. So I’m not sure what it really does? If you off set z by 4mm, a 4mm glass bed should fit. In fact it does not the nozzle crashes in to the glass. There for a 4mm offset is not possible.

Steps 1,2,3 do not mention heating. The software does not ask you to hea,.but I guess it may not matter, even though physics tells us it does.

Doing the leveling with the paper trick. @ -1.32 I get this mess.
image

if I go to -1.22 ( and the paper is very loose ) I get this

if I go to - 1.12 I can put two sheets under the nozzle I get this
image

I finally found where sovol kept its files. I updated to 1.1.5 and the latest sovol cura, and did a print no setting changed. Seem better but still has issues.

Cura asked if I have kipper or Merlin? Trying Kipper it prints really fast Merlin is slow. Neither give me the results I’m used to seeing. Pretty sure merlin is stock.

Sorry, Solvol, but I call BS on your “one or two papers under the nozzle” z-adjustment method. Waaay too conservative. Your instructions leave users like @ulao (and like me when I started out) with the nozzle way too high. The thing that always works very well for me is to crank the nozzle way down on a single piece of paper. Adjust z until you almost can not move the paper under the nozzle. Really tight!

When you print a brim, there should be no space between the lines. The test pattern at this link
Printables works very well for adjusting your z offset. Try it, you’ll like it. Oh, and do not forget to press the “Save” softkey after setting your z-offset. Oh yeah^2, be sure to run the 25-point bed leveling command, and be sure to press “save” after this. Good luck!!

So wait, your bring z down that far?

Oh, and do not forget to press the “Save” softkey after setting your z-offset.

that’s old news, see 1.1.5, its auto saved now.


using - prusa mk3 0.6 nozzle PLA.gcode with tight leveling I get this
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As a test I took it to close to the head that I could here it dragging during print, I then backed it off by .1 each go. until it was so high It didn’t lay to the bed.None of the settings worked. I’m suspecting some type of hardware issue here.

all steps preformed with clean plate no glue,.In all cases filament does not stick. G code set bed to 60c

-1.72 scrapes the bed
-1.62 like the image above
-1.52 like the image above
-1.42 like the image above
-1.32 little seems to lay on the bed, ( this is my normal z setting )
-1.22 little seems to lay on the bed

Problem, resolved, my clutch was screwed out all the way.