Hello,
Could someone explain to me the advantages of the Zero compared to other printers?
Isn’t the building plate too small?
Hello,
Could someone explain to me the advantages of the Zero compared to other printers?
Isn’t the building plate too small?
I would probably view the Zero as a secondary printer. The main advantages are == It’s Open Source(ish), can print most materials, core XY, enclosed, small footprint, reasonable priced, built like a tank, modifiable, FAST, and so far reliable. Not the greatest out there but not bad for the money. I’m sure others will chip in with anything I’ve missed and this is just my opinion.
The build plate is smaller than then A1 Mini, but that’s still big enough to print most things.
The main reason I bought it was for a fully enclosed high temp core XY.
I use my SV06 for ASA, but I would have to move it off the lack rack to a different location & then setup the HotBox. When done, I would have to tear it all back down & move the printer back. Unless it was something I needed right away, I would wait until I could print ASA for a few days.
So, the Zero makes things easier & I now have my first Core XY.
So, you gave up on your SV06ACE?
I still use it, I just used it 2 weeks ago
I really need to use it more, before I try ASA on it.
The ACE isn’t reliable enough for me yet.
But you can’t really compare the ACE to the Zero.
Is the Zero much better ?
“Better” is up to you.
It is a very good printer but if the build volume doesn’t match the objects you want to print then it isn’t “better” for you.
Agree with above. If you need an enclosed printer capable of doing higher-temp materials, and your prints fit within the 150x150x150 area, this is a great printer. If you don’t need ABS/ASA/PA etc, or need larger prints, it’s not for you.
I do think that for most folks, this is a second printer. I’ve got a Bambu A1 for “regular” sized things.
if Sovol releases an SV08 revision with the Zero toolhead and a better heat bed, I’m gonna be very, very, very tempted to replace the A1. (The SV08 Max doesn’t interest me at all, too big, too power-hungry.)
I find the Zero excellent for design and prototype development type work where I want to iterate through design changes, printing and testing repeatedly. Even for final projects too big for the Zero I prefer to iterate at the smallest possible scale to speed iterations and minimize waste. In general I find that things I’ve refined at a tiny size tend to scale up easily and work out nicely with significant savings in time and cost versus iterating only at full scale.
When iterating small I rarely make significant use of the Zero’s capabilities for speed. Often I am limiting flow to only a few mm3/sec perhaps 1/10th of what it can do. But the Zero shines for me with its fast startup even when temps are high. Now that I have several build plates for it I love the simplicity of letting it always do its blazingly fast and accurate bed mesh calibration before every print so I can immediately swap plates and have the next print going while I process the previous one.
Finally, after reading all the comments above, if this printer were equipped with a 250 x 250 x 250 plate, it would be perfect.
So I’ll wait for version zero v2.
Highly unlikely you’re going to see a Zero v2.
The larger format options are the SV08 and SV08 Max.
I have a Zero, but I’m also I’m waiting for an SV08 ACE, An SV08 with updated hardware from the Zero. The Max has it, but it’s just WAY too big for my needs, and far too power-hungry.
I have zwo SV08 and one Zero - all stock. The Zero is primary for ASA printing which works almost out of the box. Most of my ASA prints are smal and i get four parts on a build plate most of the time. I ordered a spare plate and change plates when print is finished. Works great FOR ME!
As a single printer i would go with a SV08, with enclosure if you need a heated chamber - and wait for however the new Eddy version will be called if possible.
“too small”, “better” and so on, is on you.
In addition to all of the great Zero comments so far, I would only add two impressions.
I almost didn’t get the Zero because I thought I’d be frustrated that it was too small but it’s now my favorite printer. Most parts I make fit with plenty of room to spare, but that is very subjective, depending on what you print. However, I was surprised by how seldom the small size prevented me from using the Zero. Sometimes, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. I discounted the Zero based on its small size before I had it, but not once I started using it.
Scaling up the Zero would fix the occasional “too small” problem but bigger isn’t always better. In many ways, smaller is better, and that was a pleasant surprise when I started using the Zero. I love that it doesn’t need much desk space. The coreXY design has a tiny footprint. Not only does the small bed heat quickly, the enclosed passively heated chamber also heats quickly. I thought I might want to passively heat the chamber, or at least insulate it so it would heat faster, but that’s completely unnecessary. On most ABS prints, the chamber is 45-50 C by the time the first layer has printed. Larger passively heated printers need much more time to heat and they don’t reach higher temperatures so part warping is lessened but not eliminated. The Zero prints ABS much better than any printer I’ve had. It’d be great if you needed to reliably crank out a lot of tough high temperature precision parts.
Some 3D printers are utilitarian pickup trucks and some are speedy sports cars. I love my Zero for the same reason that I love my little Japanese mini truck. It was reasonably priced, amazingly practical, easy to modify if I want to do that, and despite the small size it is very capable. It punches well above its weight class.
That’s exactly why I bought mine. It’s a good second printer. Also, I just learned about a feature called “Cut”, or something like that where you can create seams in prints too big for your build plate and print on multiple plates. It won’t work for everything but might come in handy in the situations where it’s a good solution. I can’t wait to try it out.
About a year ago, I got a Bambu Mini (no AMS) to run alongside my A1 (AMS) that I had for 9 months before that.
I learned pretty quickly that most of my prints were small, and single color.
Technically, my Zero is a replacement for my Mini. I wanted something to do high-temp filaments like ABS/ASA/PC, etc
Haven’t gotten rid of the Mini yet though… at least twice this week I had all three printers running simultaneously.
The Mini is a damn good printer.
Since you own both the A1 & the A1 Mini, what is your thought on print quality..??
I’ve read more than a few posts on the Bambu forum the Mini is better.
It’s a little hard for me to do direct comparison, I run the A1 pretty much permanently with a .6 nozzle, and the Mini with a .4. I’ve never had any quality issues with either that couldn’t be traced down to filament tuning or a mechanical/maintenence issue. Had some screws come loose in the A1 heater block that allowed the hotend to shift very slightly, which played merry heck with my Z-offsets until I figured it out.
Now that I’m learning about Orca profiles and how to properly set them up, I’m getting some very nice results from the Zero too. I finally got a 0.6 nozzle profile running that I am happy with.